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King's Field Related Games => King's Field Series => Topic started by: BurningDoom on November 18, 2009, 06:29:03 pm
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Is there an English Version of this game out there? I'm not smart enough to mod my PS2.
-Nate-
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There is not an official english version, but John is working on a translation project for it.
This would likely require the ability to emulate the PS2 though, so hopefully your PC hardware is pretty good!
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Aha, just the thread topic I was looking for!
I am also very interested in this project, as I want to finally try out this game that everybody is talking about - I am happy to help with some of the translation if it will assist the project...
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I think there are much better topics on this issue. There is some talk that John translated it, but he's taken a vow of silence, and Tom acts like he has a copy, but if so he seems to just be sitting on it.
You would not have to emulate the game to play a hacked version. Just burn it to a disc and use a modded PS2, or one of the swap tricks, or use a PS2 with a harddrive (software modded) to upload the game to the harddrive (which bypasses the disc verification process)
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Well, I finally managed to get a soft copy of the game, and since I just couldn't wait, I am running full steam ahead with it in Japanese. I hacked the item descriptions, etc. out of the .stz file and made some tentative translations of things in a spreadsheet. I may eventually try to put the English back into the game, but for now it's just in the ods file. I haven't translated everything, but I copied most of the Japanese text in, so at least it's searchable. The translations I have so far are purely literal - I haven't tried to make them too natural sounding or anything. I will be the first to admit that my written Japanese is quite terrible - I focused almost exclusively on conversational Japanese when I was living there.
At any rate, I thought I'd offer to send the file to anyone who has a Japanese copy of the game and is just dying to play it like I was.
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I was working on translating this, but got distracted. I'd love to see what translations you came up with. If any of my translation notes would help you enjoy the game, I'd be happy to post them.
What is a Rombarm and why is it exuding darkness!!? :movingeyes:
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Mayhaps it ate too much pork and beans?
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Thank you, Wolf! That would definitely help immensely. Again, I don't have translations for everything yet, but I feel I've made some good interpretive progress with a lot of the items of Indic & Caucus origin. I can upload mine at home tonight - would it be better to post here, or via PM until we get a presentable version?
What is a Rombarm and why is it exuding darkness!!? :movingeyes:
My thoughts exactly. :box:
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By the way... now that I finally finished the game last night :blow:, I was wondering if anyone can help me out with some things I never figured out.
Maybe this should be in a new thread, but where in the f do you use the bug body parts and the pocket watch?
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I think the bug parts unlock doors. I don't think I ever figured out what the watch did.
I'll send you the list I had via PM. I wasn't trying for 100% literal translation -more to capture the content/intent then present it in a way that sounds pleasing to Western ears. :smile:
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Yeah, my thinking on this one was that I'd go for the roughly literal translation as I went through, then do a colloquial translation when I have everything to give it some context. We'll see how that goes... :dazed:
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Look forward to it!
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Same here, Im interested, though I have never been able to finish Shadow Tower due to eventual lack of interest.
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Out of curiosity, lack of interest due to the language thing, or due to the game itself?
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ST: Abyss is a game I really want to play, but since I can't read Japanese, it's not something I'll be able to do until a translation becomes available. :)
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Bummer! I looked through my PC for the rest of the text files I had translated for STA and the whole project folder seems to be gone. All I have is an early backup I made but it's missing about half the work I did.
I had extracted all the Japanese and done translations for opening movies, region names, enemy name/descriptions, and all the wall signs/dialogue from game-start till after the first meeting with Ariel. All I have now is the translated system menus and items. I had some serious PC problems around when I stopped the project, must have gotten deleted/lost in the shuffle somehow.
Mord, are you considering doing a full translation?
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More or less... I thought it would be a fun project, and there are a couple people I can think of who would really like it when they can understand what's going on. :biggrin:
I don't know how long it would take to do it reasonably well (and add all the stuff back into the game, etc.), but I'd like to keep going. Wolf, would you be interested in teaming up on this? If you have the means to put subtitles in for the opening movie and whatnot, we could do it in a lot less time than either one working alone... Then all these poor guys could finally have a crack at it. :wink:
I sent you a PM with the little that I have done so far... Let me know what you think.
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I have been spending most my free time working on a SoM game, but it seems worthwhile to put that aside for a bit and finish STA. I was impressed with your item translations so teaming up sounds like a good idea.
You can write me directly at weissvulfATyahoo.com
The first thing I think I should do is make pointer table tool for STA- memory pointer tables tell the game where a line of text begins. So you can reallocate the available text space by editing the table. A tool will save tons of time versus doing it manually.
As far as subtitles, I did have a procedure setup for adding subs, but I hadn't fully tested it yet. I'll blow the cobwebs off those notes too.
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I wouldnt mind doing some voice overs. Well, you have my offer. I'm well known for my imitation skills amongst friends.
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To clarify, I was referring to the original shadow tower, ive restarted it probably half a dozen times but only make it about 50%-60% through before i stop playing. I cant explain why, though I think a soundtrack really would have helped me...From's obsession with not adding music to their games from ST onward really bums me out considering the games that DO have music have some of my favorite tracks ever.
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Great, I'm glad to be part of the project! I spent a little time yesterday touching up some things, and I have a first-pass common translation for everything except the items/weapons/armor. Granted, the items/weapons/armor is the biggest part of the task, but it's progress. And I agree - putting things back in by hand would take quite a while... A tool for that would definitely be a blessing.
@Todd: I remember hearing that the first ST wasn't nearly as good as the second. Hopefully that's true? I really enjoyed STA at any rate - especially the ambiance of the first few levels.
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I dislike the first, though i will say that demons/dark souls has elements of it, so i wont shun it entirely :wink:
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I liked the gameplay from ST, but I missed the music and involving plot that KF had. I think STA has a better plot than ST, but it's still easy to miss if you aren't paying attention. The eclectic nature of STA's items feels a little strange, but it makes sense when you understand the the Shadow Tower has been 'trapping' people from many places for many ages and won't let them die.
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but it makes sense when you understand the the Shadow Tower has been 'trapping' people from many places for many ages and won't let them die.
So its like the sarlacc but as a tower? :eek:
(http://grannygear.com/Assets/Images/Races/Moab/2011/Sarlacc_on_Sarlacc_Action.jpg)
Have to say when i was a kid this thing / idea really freaked me out.
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My family lived in Yuma Arizona when they filmed that scene from Return of the Jedi in the sand dunes nearby. I wanted to try to go see the filming, but my mother wouldn't let me :razz:
The Shadow Tower isn't alive or anything like sarlacc - basically, there was an ancient powerful kingdom whose king held a mighty weapon. In truth, the king's power came from the 'Darkness' and he held secret rituals for the Darkness- presumably tossing people into an otherworldly dimension of some sort where they wander lost and tormented forever. His weapon (the one with the eye) gives him power to control the Darkness. When his kingdom is finally defeated and falls apart, he retreats to his Tower built in the 'Darkness' but eventually, the Darkness turns on him because he isn't sacrificing victims anymore. As the latest victim sacrificed to the Darkness, the player is sent to defeat the king and take his weapon . . then the zaniness ensues!
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Mord, I'm mostly done with the text insertion/extraction tool. There are a few irregularities- meaning there might be some lines of text that the tool doesn't currently access, but it's a good place to start.
Looks like there are around 40 'blocks' of text. Attached is Block39 as extracted by the tool. I can send you other blocks when you're ready.
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Thats a great story. I'm more interested in your own personal experience. I watched a film called 127 hours, it was about a man in Utah, i thought it looked pretty incredible. Ive never seen a desert before in real life.
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Whoooooa, that looks great! I got a little distracted this weekend - I had a birthday (spent too much money at REI) and a halloween party (spent too many drinks on myself)... But I'll be spending some more time translating tonight. I don't know if you were aware of it, but there are a couple lines of dialogue that appear more than once in the file - I only found that out by accidentally hitting 'find next' a second time on a couple blocks.... I don't remember which ones they are now, but they shouldn't be too hard to track down if need be.
How would you like to proceed? I have my dialogue translations on the second sheet of the ods file I sent (and I have updated versions in the one I'm working on now), but they're formatted in lines as they appear on the screen in-game instead of by block in the stz file. That was simply because I was translating as I went along in the game.
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Yeah, Verdite - deserts are interesting. I've been to a few, and they're all quite different. I'm currently living in New Mexico for grad school, and it's definitely desert, but not what people would normally think of (it's not just sand dunes, etc). Still, you have to base any serious treks on water access points, which is something that I had never even considered before, growing up in Wisconsin. I can't say I've had the pleasure of seeing 127 hours yet, but I saw a documentary about it shortly after it happened - they actually brought the real guy back to the spot where it happened... Hectic!
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How would you like to proceed? I have my dialogue translations on the second sheet of the ods file I sent (and I have updated versions in the one I'm working on now), but they're formatted in lines as they appear on the screen in-game instead of by block in the stz file. That was simply because I was translating as I went along in the game.
The tool's main purposes are to auto calculate the pointer tables and also to calculate how long the text can be. But for translating, just use whatever arrangement works best for you.
The 'blocks' of text are arranged chronologically as you would encounter the text ingame so it should not be hard to correlate them to your ODS which is also arranged chronologically. There is some game text that I didn't see in your ODS, like the writing on the wall behind the player when the game starts.
Why don't you send me your latest ODS, and I'll copy its translations into the corresponding "block.txt" and send them to you. That should highlight any missing Japanese. I can also add notes to your ODS telling the maximum size an area of text can be.
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Thats a great story. I'm more interested in your own personal experience. I watched a film called 127 hours, it was about a man in Utah, i thought it looked pretty incredible. Ive never seen a desert before in real life.
Pure sand dunes like the ones outside Yuma are quite rare in the USA. Most deserts here are covered with thin, but evenly spread vegetation like cactus's or other drought tolerant shrubs. There's an interesting story about the early road they built across those dunes (where sarlacc was filmed) here. (http://www.gbcnet.com/ushighways/US80/US80_plank_road.html) The mountains of sand shift so quickly in the wind, that anything heavier than the sand would soon sink to the bottom so they made a long, chained wood plank road that floated on top of the sand. My grandparent actually drove across that 'Plank Road' on their honeymoon.
Another interesting thing about the deserts here that seems counterintuitive: they actually have floods semi regularly. Rain comes in brief torrential downpours which makes a wall of sandy water called a 'flash flood' that goes cutting through the desert. Most deserts I've been to are filled with dry 'washes' from old flash flood channels and it wasn't uncommon to hear of a house or two getting swamped in a flash flood. These days, they've mostly built canals to catch flash floods and direct them away from populated areas.
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The 'blocks' of text are arranged chronologically as you would encounter the text ingame so it should not be hard to correlate them to your ODS which is also arranged chronologically. There is some game text that I didn't see in your ODS, like the writing on the wall behind the player when the game starts.
Why don't you send me your latest ODS, and I'll copy its translations into the corresponding "block.txt" and send them to you. That should highlight any missing Japanese. I can also add notes to your ODS telling the maximum size an area of text can be.
Yeah, I started to ignore the wall-writings and such when I was playing... sorry about that. I've sent an updated spreadsheet via email. I haven't done the bulk of the items (which you have translations for), because I was focusing on the other stuff first. Little by little as I get time... :smile:
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I had a good read of that website you sent over John, sorry to have you crossing from one nostalgic trip post to a more technical translation post in one thread. Its good that part of the road wasnt destroyed, so people could see the hard work of past efforts. That kind of work would have been a mammoth task in the intense heat.
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Just an update:
We're still a ways from being 'finished', but there is good progress being made. I am slow, and John is a legend for picking up the slack. :bowl:
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I really must have too much time on my hands to make this...
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HAAAHAHAHA
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LOL, yeah, that's so true . . . you do have too much time on your hands :biggrin: Reminds me of a post I made once (http://agetec.yuku.com/topic/2425#.TrX3a0RQNxk).
I must say I'm quite happy with how the project is going. Mord has done a huge amount of the translating already and the technical aspects seem to be going smoothly. We might actually pull this off in the near future!
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A bit of creativity for humour doesnt go amiss. I like that 'japy' skeleton. Keep off black marker pens, some people are more succeptible to blackouts than others!!!
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I almost have the first passable draft of ALL the translations... I just need a couple more hours sometime in the next few days... :movingeyes:
What was the maximum space allowed in Block 2, Wolf? I calculated 36,827. (If that's true, we're very comfortably below the limit for that block) I just need to finish up xlating some of the dialog blocks and check over the item descriptions again. I'll hopefully get that to you by Thursday. -ish.
Oh, I've just been using pipes for the line breaks. Is that OK, or would you prefer some other marker? Also, I've been counting the blank spaces between items (denoting a new entry) as one space, since my hex editor counts them as one space. In other words, I am just using len(cell)+1 to calculate the sizes of each name/description/dialogue in the sheet.
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That's excellent to hear!
The Items block (#2) can be 34822 max. Pipes will work fine as long as you don't use a pipe in the actual text. I can use 'replace' to convert to the format the text tool expects. It reads a standard 'line break' as 'new-line', and two line breaks in a row as a 'new entry'.
Not to complicate things even more, but Fromsoft often leaves a lot of unused data scraps in their games and several of the STA text blocks are longer than I indicated, but the extra text is not referenced in the pointer table and doesn't seem to appear ingame. It's likely that the extra text is just scraps that were edited out in the final version. I'll do some checking to make sure the extra doesn't appear ingame and see if we might be able to use the extra space for the translation without introducing bugs.
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John, I loved that post! I still use that image as my avatar!
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Not to complicate things even more, but Fromsoft often leaves a lot of unused data scraps in their games and several of the STA text blocks are longer than I indicated, but the extra text is not referenced in the pointer table and doesn't seem to appear ingame. It's likely that the extra text is just scraps that were edited out in the final version. I'll do some checking to make sure the extra doesn't appear ingame and see if we might be able to use the extra space for the translation without introducing bugs.
I did the research and the simple version is, there's good evidence that some text blocks can be longer than the lengths I quoted earlier. Below is the list. The "+" values are added to the max lengths I quoted earlier.
Block5 +56
Block6 +11
Block9 +34
Block14 +1098
Block15 +17
Block17 +376
Block18 +157
Block19 +136
Block21 +23
Block24 +663
Block27 +237
Block29 +9
Block30 +40
Block32 +105
Block34 +34
Block35 +23
Block36 +46
Block37 +3
It's also likely, that block#37 (which is nearly identical to #38) isn't used in the game. I'll work on the movies now.
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Great! Thanks for that - I'm sure the extra space will come in handy.
I completely blanked on the weapon/armor names issue - and I'm noticing that some of them will be very difficult to get under 18 characters (like Radiant Barrel Helm, for example). What would you like to do? There are heaps of 'em. I can abbreviate things and take out words like 'sword' where it's obvious, but...
I got all the descriptions checked and formatted with line breaks in reasonably intuitive places. Now I just need to finish up translating a bunch of the wall writings.
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Well, I didn't mean to make it sound worse than it is... There is one at 22 characters long (could be shortened to 19 easily), a few at 21, and a bunch at 20 & 19. I just had an idea. This may prove to be more work than it's worth, but I thought I'd throw it out there:
If we can change the stat images for 'soul', 'particle', etc., do you think we would be able to change the menu selection background (the green bar) to be longer - 22 characters wide instead of the current 18?
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Since it's a variable width font, space largely depends on which letters are used in the words. I inserted the widest item names and it looks like only 4 go out of the box- and those only a little (see picture). It might work to lengthen the background box depending on how it's stored/loaded. I'll look into that when I do the other graphics.
I think I've got a setup working that can bake subtitles into the video (haven't tested yet to be sure), but there might be an issue with the resulting file size. Subtitles will require re-encoding the video which could add ~100mb to the size of a patch. STA videos are compressed so I don't think there is a way around this but I'll keep looking.
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In my humble opinion, it's not the end of the world if the words go off the edge just a little like in your image. After all, it's a fan translation and not an official release. I didn't think the effect would be so minimal.
In other news: I finished the translations!!!
(I still need feedback on a couple strange entries, but it's essentially there!)
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Hey guys, keep up the good work. My mind is blown that the translation is finally going ahead - I was just about to start playing it in japanese!
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Incredible. Look forward to it!
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Yes please :)
I just finished my second play through of DS yesterday, Im in need of new gaming materials hehe
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I also just finished Dark Souls for the second time. Loved it... Was hoping to play this before they release the 1.05 patch lol. At this rate they'll probably finish the translation before then...
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Status update for those on the edges of their seats :ninja:
We are nearly there! We are now in the checking phase to make sure our translations and formatting fit in the available space, that it makes sense in context, etc...
The long wait is nearly over, I promise! :dance: :dancev:
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...the credits will look something like this:
Mord - Translation
Wolf - fixing Mord's crummy translation.
In addition, everything else.
:biggrin:
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Sweet, keep it up, guys! :D
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What about the matter of actually hacking the text into the game? Or at this point, is that just gonna be a simple CTRL+F/REPLACE WITH... procedure? Sounds like you guys have a good grasp on the game's coding.
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...the credits will look something like this:
Mord - Translation
Wolf - fixing Mord's crummy translation.
In addition, everything else.
Ha, it may seem like translating is the easy part, but I think most game-translators would agree that it's much harder to find a translator than a PC nerd. I think you've done the hardest part by far.
Hi NoSoup4you (the soup Nazi!!) and welcome to the forum. Things are going well with inserting the text, but it's a little more complicated than search and replace. I made a tool that makes it pretty easy to inserts new text, and I may release it after we're done. Are you interested in translating games?
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I'd be much more likely to be the "PC nerd" than an actual translator. I've done some programming, wouldn't call myself a professional by any means, but I pick it up quickly I guess. Right now I'm busy with audio production.
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I can't wait! You guys are awesome! After playing with demon's souls, i took interest in from software previous rpg's and shadow tower abyss is the one that look the more awesome. So glad you guys are translating it! Not to say that i don't care about the other games. I recently bought king's field 4 on ebay and i played and finish the trilogy on playstation. Their great! But shadow tower abyss looks miles better. 200 weapons? Swords, axes, bows, guns. That's crazy! I can't believe this was only release in japan.
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:drummer: (That's a drumroll...)
Thanks to everyone for waiting more or less patiently all this time! (Myself included - turns out I was less patient than most...) Here you will finally find Shadow Tower: Abyss in English.
For legal reasons, we will not be distributing the game itself. What is provided here is a patch that will allow you to modify an iso image of the game disc to convert the in-game text to English, as well as add subtitles to the movies.
Without further ado, you can find the patch here. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=622WLKFZ (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=622WLKFZ)
Things you will need:
- a copy of the game in .iso format
- the (ppf) patch linked above
- a ppf patching program, for example PPF-O-Matic
- either a modded PS2 or a PS2 emulator (a normal PS2 won't load a burned game)
Millions of thanks to the Great White Sage Wolf. Happy gaming!
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Wow, that was pretty quick! I'd expected it to take much longer! Well done! :D
Going to download that to my computer so I can play STA as soon as I get the game. :3
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Gonna try this tonight! :beerchug:
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Awesome as hell, gonna start downloading.
Would you mind if I popped a perma link on the site somewhere so folks dont have to rely on megaupload?
Also, have you told the folks at agetec forum yet its available? I know they were pretty interested a while ago.
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I know I certainly don't mind a permanent link. In fact, I think it's better to have it somewhere we know it won't get randomly deleted, etc. I'm sure Wolf doesn't mind either.
And no - I haven't posted the news anywhere other than here. I should really be working instead of browsing the forum here :ninja: (don't tell my boss) so... feel free to disseminate as you wish!
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This... this is the happiest day of my life! Okay maybe not the best but one of the best! But hey i got a question. If i burn the iso of the game with the patch apply to it on a blank dvd, will i be able to play it on my modded ps2 in english and all?
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Im no expert, but Im going to say probably not. I havent had any luck reburning a King's Field iso this way and Im guessing the memory boundaries and checks are probably out of whack...but I could be wrong.
John would be the expert here...come to think of it, seems like he got a working brigandine grand edition on disk once...
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I would assume if you apply the translation patch, and then the ESR patch, you could play it like that. I'll let you know if it works for me or not shortly here.
EDIT: Looks like it just hangs at the ESR launcher, where the colored screens usually flash. Will investigate non-ESR methods.
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What`s ESR? What i have is swap magic. If that doesn`t work then is there any other way i can play it on my modded ps2? I can`t play it on an emulator because my Laptop is piece of crap when it comes to games. Worst scenario i`ll just import the game and will deal with japanese text.
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Swap magic might work, I don't have one to test it with. ESR is a method of patching games to boot without swapping.
I can't seem to run the patched game, even in an emulator. Not to mention I'd much rather play it in my real console. How'd you guys do it?
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Anyone else having trouble reaching megaupload tonight?
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I'll mirror it on my dropbox for a couple days:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6097696/STATest0.3.rar
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Got it thanks,
Uploading a complete .iso image you can boot if anyone needs it, the patch is working on it and no need to download the original iso/patch programs etc.
Ill also host the original iso and patch if anyone needs it. Ill post it later tonight when its finished uploading.
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Thanks, Todd!
:coolani:
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http://www.swordofmoonlight.com/STA/abyss.zip
This should be a fully functional patched iso. The zip is ~330 mb and will unpack to 1.45 gig.
Let me know if you have any problems getting it to work.
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Excellent! Don't know what you did differently, but the game's up and running with ESR. And it's awesome. I'm gonna have to finish the first game first, though.
You guys could give some lessons to the team that was supposedly translating Echo Night 2...
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This... this is the happiest day of my life! Okay maybe not the best but one of the best! But hey i got a question. If i burn the iso of the game with the patch apply to it on a blank dvd, will i be able to play it on my modded ps2 in english and all?
I ran earlier versions of a translated STA from a DVDR on my chipped big PS2. But the DVDR brand is important; some cheap brands won't boot at all in a PS2.
I can also verify that the current translated version of STA will run on a PS2 from a hard drive using HDLoader. So any trouble playing the game is probably from the loading method and not caused by the translation patch.
It also runs pretty well on PCSX 0.9.6 using the v1.60 USA BIOS. My PC is Dual core 3GHz CPU, Nvidia GTS250.
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Does anyone know how the ps3's with the ps2 hardware in them work with foreign games? Will it play games from any region?
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Thanks for the ISO, just downloaded! And thanks for translating and creating a patch, guys! :D
Will it play games from any region?
No, it won't. The PS3 itself isn't region free, the PS3 games are. PS1 and PS2 games are region locked, so on a PAL PS3 you can play any PS3 game out there, but only PAL PS1 games(and PAL PS2 games, depending on model).
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K thats what I thought.
Its interesting, playing abyss last night its pretty obvious to me that shadow tower and shadow tower abyss HAD to be a different team of folks at from software, they are very very similar to each other but there is just an overall feeling I dont get playing the shadow tower games that I did playing the KF ones, I cant pinpoint the differences but just overall, it seems like the folks who made the shadow tower series are like the minor leaguers at From Software.
Im not saying the games arent good, I just think they lack a quality that the KF games had.
Anyways, I am playing abyss now, getting my ass kicked in classic from software style fashion!
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So i burn the ISO of the game with the translation patch attach to it on a blank DVD-R, then boot it up on my ps2 using swap magic and it works! Very well if i do say so.
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K thats what I thought.
Its interesting, playing abyss last night its pretty obvious to me that shadow tower and shadow tower abyss HAD to be a different team of folks at from software, they are very very similar to each other but there is just an overall feeling I dont get playing the shadow tower games that I did playing the KF ones, I cant pinpoint the differences but just overall, it seems like the folks who made the shadow tower series are like the minor leaguers at From Software.
Im not saying the games arent good, I just think they lack a quality that the KF games had.
Anyways, I am playing abyss now, getting my ass kicked in classic from software style fashion!
It almost seems like From was going for absolute minimalism in the ST series and the ST plots don't seem to have the same driving force that the KF games do. KF had so much background lore that helped increase the immersion and the player was a purpose-driven part of the story. In ST, it's almost like a battle arena where your main purpose is just to fight.
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Totally agree John, my earlier statement was worded improperly, its not a lack of quality, its a lack of depth i guess, or completeness.
In KF games there were reasons to visit the starting area at the end of the game, for items, story and areas you couldnt reach before, so far at least, it doesnt seem like the STs were designed with that necessity.
I dont dislike the games, they just give me a different feeling altogether.
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What strikes me about Shadow Tower over King's Field is the sheer density of items... I'm picking up something new like every 20 seconds.... It's kind of ridiculous.
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Thats a bit too diverse for me... I like to pick up new items but look after things ive found earlier and intend to use later, like in KF and Dark / Demons souls. I suppose having too many items is wasteful, why bother spending time making and creating useable designs for them to be stashed away or sold?
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At least, I definitely feel like there's value in trying to 100% the game because of it. There is a lot of stuff, and I do find myself using a surprising amount of it since the items durability degrades so quickly. I'm getting towards the end of the first game (I think?) and I've still only got 25% on some worlds, lol. Gotta love how you can completely skip entire sections of the game too.
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Just like NoSoup said, I found that it was a very useful thing to have so many items my first time through - because of item durability, I was going through them at a pretty good rate. It's not that the items are super weak - I just hack at a lot of stuff. Plus, I'm one of those players who always goes for the melee approach even when it's obvious that I should be using a ranged weapon... just for the fun of it.
It's crazy how well they managed to hide some of this stuff - Even after combing slowly through the first area on my second playthrough, shooting at walls and being super snoopy, I still only managed to complete the area at something like 80%...
In case anyone cares, I managed to find a site with area maps, similar to what was done at kings-field.com. It's in Japanese, but will undoubtedly provide some help. Not all the areas are mapped out, but most are. Go to the second section, entitled マップ攻略. (This would have been SOOOOO useful my first playthrough, before we started the translation project...)
http://www5f.biglobe.ne.jp/~abyss/ (http://www5f.biglobe.ne.jp/~abyss/)
I did find the official guidebook, too...
http://books.google.com/books/about/SHADOW_TOWER_ABYSS_%E5%85%AC%E5%BC%8F%E3%82%B3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%97%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC.html?id=EgEoNwAACAAJ
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Very cool, once I figure out a way to make this look a little nicer on my pc I will be playing through, but for now the emulation is just too 'gray' and its beyond difficult to see.
I played on my brother's modded ps2 and it looked so much better.
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Got my emulation settings looking spot on tonight (go go directx 10 settings!)
Got through the first few areas, now in the poison area. Liking it alot more now. Its amazing to me how similar this is to the first ST.
Again a thanks to the translators :)
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Alrighty, I beat the first game tonight. I thought it was good, but I wasn't into the atmosphere so much as trying to break the game with my enormous stats. KFIV is still FROM's best game imo... Gonna start Abyss tomorrow maybe.
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:biggrin: You just made my day!!!! I just decided on a whim to check to see if there had been any updates...and found the translation had been released! Awesome...
Many, many, thanks!!! :beerchug: I bought an import copy awhile back but could not get into it with the online walkthrough.
I can confirm the patch works this way.... :smile:
Burned the .iso with Nero 8. Then patched and reburned at 1x speed.
Playing it with a PS2 slim top/mod and Swapmagic 3.
On the 2nd or 3rd map so far and it works beautifully. Excellent translation. You've outdone yourselves!
Again my thanks for making this playable/understandable to the English speaking world.
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Wow, it's wonderful to know that our work is so well appreciated! I hope you enjoy the rest of the game!
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http://www.swordofmoonlight.com/STA/abyss.zip
This should be a fully functional patched iso. The zip is ~330 mb and will unpack to 1.45 gig.
Let me know if you have any problems getting it to work.
hey man, do you mind if a share your this iso link on Snesorama? Cuz except from us, no one knows the patch yet
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All links on this site are for public consumption as far as im concerned...which is why i host them here in the first place ;)
Id much rather a fan of these games get a quick, virus free download than try to muddle through one of those freebie file hosting sites that propogate trojans all over the place!
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Just wanted to send out a thank you for the translation. I was going back to beat Shadow Tower, since I never finished it, and while I was looking at Wikipedia, it mentioned that the sequel had been fan translated , so I Googled it and found this forum.
At first I was gonna ask you to upload the patch somewhere else, since Megaupload is no more, but then I found a pre patched ISO, and it works fine.
I'm really surprised how fast people got PS2 emulators working, it seemed like it took years and years to get PS1 and N64 emulators up and running.
Hope I'm allowed to mention that, since the game was never released in the USA after all.
I've tried a little of Abyss, and it seems pretty damn awesome, I have a feeling I'm gonna really enjoy it after I beat Shadow Tower.
It seemed to have a weird default control setup though, just like the Eternal Ring did. It doesn't start on analog, and it'll take me a while to get used to X being the menu and cancel button. It's just so backwards from pretty much all other games. Guess I could change that in the emulator control pad options though.
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Spread it around! I like this minimalist style of gaming a lot, and would like to see it get more attention. I'm in the foggy world right now, playing a couple times a week when I'm not recording.
The only problem I've found with the translation is that when repairing items, the HP cost appears over the letters HP, making it very difficult to read.
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I shared your link Snesorama, soon lots of gamers will taste it: http://snesorama.us/board/showthread.php?t=71041 :smile:
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Knighteen, MordOfSwoonlight did the translating (a ton of the total work) on STA so don't forget to give him the credit he deserves.
I personally don't care about getting credit. I would actually prefer you take my name out of that snesorama post because I try to avoid supporting piracy and I don't plan on providing anyone with a a copy of STA.
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Hi folks, I've been a lurker for quite a while and just want to express my gratitude to all those involved in the translation of Shadow Tower Abyss. I only recently learned about FMCB for PS2, so was doubly happy to discover I could easily play this now!
I'm just about 30% of the way through the insect lair; I'm taking it slow and savoring the experience.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
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Knighteen, MordOfSwoonlight did the translating (a ton of the total work) on STA so don't forget to give him the credit he deserves.
I personally don't care about getting credit. I would actually prefer you take my name out of that snesorama post because I try to avoid supporting piracy and I don't plan on providing anyone with a a copy of STA.
ok man, i edited the post as you wished. I removed your name and put "MordOfSwoonlight" instead of yours
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Thanks for the "Thanks" Black Hood. I think both Mord and I are happy people seem to be enjoying it :beerchug:
Emre, thanks :wink:. By the way, your KF site is quite cool. I've read through it all :smile:
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Knighteen, MordOfSwoonlight did the translating (a ton of the total work) on STA so don't forget to give him the credit he deserves.
I personally don't care about getting credit. I would actually prefer you take my name out of that snesorama post because I try to avoid supporting piracy and I don't plan on providing anyone with a a copy of STA.
Is it really piracy if the USA never got a copy of the game to begin with? I only plan to use the PS2 Emulator I found for this game(And maybe some other games that were never released here), since we never got the game in the US. Any other PS2 game I can just buy for my PS2.
Guess I don't consider it theft, if there was no way to get it here in the first place. If it was released here(and from what Wikipedia says, it was fully translated, but Sony said no), I probably would have gotten Abyss years ago, since I own all the From Software first person dungeon crawlers games released in the US, from the King's Field's series to Eternal Ring.
It was so nice for From Software to finally get the respect and praise they deserved, with the Demon and Dark Souls games, after being a fan of them for so long. Since King's Field II around 96, it was actually the first PlayStation game I ever saw.
I wonder if they will ever make another King's Field game? Or stick to the Souls games.
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It's still considered piracy from a Japanese point of view. ;) But if you've got a copy of the original(Japanese) game and download the ISO so you won't have to patch the game yourself, I don't think that would count as piracy. ^^
I don't think there will be another King's Field game... Although, they might get the idea of a reboot, remakes or similar using the engine they've got for the Souls games. I wouldn't mind seeing that. But I wouldn't put my stakes on it.
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Emre, thanks :wink:. By the way, your KF site is quite cool. I've read through it all :smile:
No problem man, I'm the one who got to say thanks. Thanx for your awesome work again and again. A couple of years ago, i thought that i would never get to chance to play King's Field 1 and STA but i could played thru all with your efforts :)
Thanx for your opinions about my site. I'm planning to write a STA review soon but I'm really lazy these days :) And of course i will post your patch there just as i did in the KF1 and SoM :)
I wonder if they will ever make another King's Field game? Or stick to the Souls games.
I totally agree with Guyra. But i don't think that we will be seeing any King's Field remakes also sadly. Because KF series never got the support it deserved outside of Japan and that's why they changed to series into third person action RPG from a first person RPG. And they succeded...
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Finally started it today, and it already seems like a much improved game over the first Shadow Tower. Graphically alone, the first level looks better then the entire first game.
Of course it's nice that I can finally see where the hell I'm going. And it's nice to hear some ambient sounds and music, the first game was dead quiet.
Took me a second to realize that the gun ammo wasn't infinite.
The only thing I don't like is that you can't tell what stat increase you will get from killing each monster like you could in the first game, unless I just don't know where to find that.
I am confused on why the Demon Crown seems to be the Demon Spear now, if this is explained in the game, please no spoilers.
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The only hope of anything first person kf related is here in the forum. Im really surprised there isnt a bigger following or fanbase for SoM games. Maybe people will support us more when they've finished our games :)
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Yeah, I think I have every SoM game made so far, least the bigger ones,(Dark Destiny, Diadem of Maunstraut, and Trismegistus) but I haven't played them yet.
Anyone know of any other SoM games? I really only know about 5 of them.
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(Small Spoilers!!)
Well I just beat Abyss, and I don't really know what the heck happen in the ending. I do know that Abyss doesn't seem to have any connection to the first game at all.
At the first the story was about the Demon Spear, but near the end of the game, that was just dropped, and never brought up again. Or maybe the Demon Spear was just a made up story to get people to go to the Tower?
Maybe most of the story was lost in translation? After it drops the Demon Spear plot, it then starts going on about being cursed, monsters constantly bring up that word, cursed. I'm guessing after killing the last boss, you saved that demon girl? As she shows up in the ending cutscene, but without horns, or any other of the demon stuff she had before(Well, other then that weird eyeball thing, whatever that was). Was that the whole point of the game? To save that random demon girl from the first game?
I know you don't really play dungeon crawlers for the stories, but I am just confused on the whole point of this game. It was a ton of fun to play though, and major improved over the first Shadow Tower.
I have a feeling that if the game did come to the US, and we had a manual, that would explain what the heck was going on, just like the manual did in the first game.
Any chance of translating the manual?
Oh, and I used this guide, it was really helpful.
http://shadowtowerabyss.kings-field.com/
It covers all the areas expect for one, but since it's for the Japanese version, it leaves out some details.
Gonna go back and beat King's Field II again, then finally beat III and IV, since I never finished those two.
Wish that http://www.kings-field.com/# had a guide for the second game. It has guides for I, III, and IV, but not II for some reason.
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Updated the download link for this to a dropbox link:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9bfh5p7cf1gq2xj/abyss.zip
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Is there any way to play the patched version on the PS2 via burning to disk? I have swap magic
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Nevermind I got it going :biggrin: :bowl:
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It should play on the PS2 hardware like any 'backup' game, but I don't know if there would be NTSC/PAL compatibility issues for you. I played the translated version on a mod-chipped PS2 console from a burnt DVD, and also from a hard drive on a FatPS2- both those methods seemed to work OK.
You beat me to the post! Was there any problems with getting it going on a PAL setup?
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None whatesover - swap magic bypasses region restrictions :) thanks for the info though
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Just wanted to thank the translators! I completed this game about 6 months ago I really enjoyed it
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I'm really glad to hear it! And also glad to hear that you stuck with it even though it got weird toward the end. Ha.
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Apologies for the necrobump, but just wanted to say that having gone through the Soulsborne games I'm now playing this translation of Shadow Tower: Abyss, and it's fascinating comparing the similarities. A big thank you to all involved - it must've been a huge undertaking.
I hear it gets weird towards the end... can't wait! I love surreal stuff in videogames, and it's already pretty damn strange. Thanks again guys.